The Cedarville Herald, Volume 56, Numbers 27-51

<3 CEDARVILLE HERALD FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 1933' *naniR!pr*eek**» THE C E D A R V I L L E HE R A L D ^ _______ __ _ _ _ ___________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . ■ „ . , .............................. i KARLH BULL — — — EDITOR AND PUBLISHER \ tUMAKB-KallOHU gdltortftl Auoc.; Ohio Newspaper Assoc.; Miami Volley Press Assoc, j Entered at the Post Office, Cedarvilie, Ohio, October 31, .1887,j as second class matter, i FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 1933 ■ AN ORCHID FOR PROSECUTOR McCALLISTER Greene county has reason to feel proud of Prosecuting Attorney McCallister after winning a decision following a jury trial over a $25,000 damage suit against the county where in the county commissioners were charged with neg­ ligence as a result of a motof car accident. There were several things unusual about the trial. First the suit wa§ an unusual one, only by the hardest stretch of imagination could the commissioners be held responsible. Second, a jury was imported from Madison county to hear the evidence and. all but one signed the verdict. Third, the decision saved the taxpayers of the county a possible payment o f $25,000, which would have had a bearing on other suits pending. ' The manner in which Prosecutor McCallister, assisted by Miller and Finney, handled the case and broke down the testimony of plaintiff'witnesses and argument of. plaintiff at­ torneys, evidently was convincing to a jury strange to the in­ terested parties. The county commissioners have been absolv­ ed of the negligence charge and the taxpayers have been saved the payment of the $25,000 claim. NO GOVERNMENT CHISELING IS PROMISED In a timely editorial, the New York Sun analyzes the plans of the Tennessee Valley Authority to reduce the electric bills of its customers from 26 to 60 per cent below the present aver­ age, in the light of the stand of another and more important branch of government-—the NRA. ' It is tne NRA policy*—and one which has received the over­ whelming endorsement of American citizens—to adjust costs and arrange business methods so that, the greatest possible number of persons may be employed at the highest, possible wage. That is the reason for the elimination of cut-throat com­ petition—the main idea behind every code. \ Government competition with private electric plants, with its low-financing charges, different bookkeeping methods and freedom from taxation, can produce but one result—-it will throw thousands of men out of work who are now employed by private utilities. And this, the Sun observes, is the kind of offense to which the always frank General Johnson has applied the word “ chiseling.’” It is the opinion of the Sun that power from Muscle Shoals, however distributed, should be sold at a price commensurate with that which private utilities, operating efficiently under similar conditions, can sell it for. Any other course would be government chiseling on a grand scale. It would be directly opposed to reemployment of workers and advancement of. liv­ ing standards for the masses. It will be a bitter irony indeed if, while the NRA works to bring about recovery by insisting on fair.and equitable business practices, the Tennessee Valley'i Authority frustrates its efforts so far as one of the most im­ portant and most progressive of our industries, in concerned. Th'e position the government has taken on “ chiseling” in as far as it relates to the electric light utilities will meet ,with ap­ proval but what has the government to say about the policy of the postal department in “ chiseling.” For years the depart­ ment has supplied printed stamped- envelopes at a loss in com­ petition with the printing industry in this country. Year after year protest is made and on numerous times legislation has been offered but always sidetracked by the power of the Wall Street interests that control the company that secures the' con­ tract. The nation is willing to take the government at its word as to “ chiseling” in the electric light and. power field but to show its consistency let us hear something about “ chiseling" in the printing industry. IMPROVED UNIFORM INTERNATIONAL S U N D A Y I c h o o l Lesson (B / M3V. P. 8. FITgWATER. D. D.. Mem­ ber of Faculty, Moody Bible Institute ot Chicago.) C. 1933, Western Newspaper Union, I Lesson for November 5 for every garage Hoover promised, FOR SALE—12 ga. ehot gun, Iver ; To beat the devil about the bush the Johnson Special Trap, Ventilated Rib, ‘ last state agent informs the commis* |double ivory bead eights, Bc-nnio sicnera they must put the relief a- Sparrow, Elm street, Cedarvilie, O. gent on the salary list as a deputy clerk and thus defeat the ruling of the Attorney General. NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT PAUL IN JERUSALEM JjfiSSON TEX T— Acta IS :!, 8 , 22 - 31 , GOLDEN TE X T—Now the Lord Id that Spirit; and w here the Spirit o f the Lord Is, there Is liberty. II Cor. 3:17. PRIMARY TOPIC—Settling: a D is­ pute. JUNIOR TOPIC—The Only Way, INTERMED IATE AND SENIOR TOP­ IC—L ook in g to the Church fo r Guid­ ance. YOUNG PEO P LE , AND ADULT TOPIC—H eeding the V oice o t the Church. I. The Controversy In the phurch at Antioch (vv. 1-5). The occasion of the controversy was the return of Paul and Barnabas from their first missionary journey. Upon their return they gathered the church together and “rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gen­ tiles." The difficulty was a most seri­ ous one, for It threatened the disrup­ tion of the church into a Jewish and Gentile division. The point at Issue was not the admission of the Gentiles Into the church. That had been set­ tled some years before when Peter- received Cornelius and- his household. The question now was: On what ground could they he received? Should (.'entile converts be required to keep the Mosaic low as a condition of sal­ vation? That which brought this Is­ sue Into prominence was the coming ■the Cincinnati Stock Yards that is un- | The controversy between the NRA ;department and. the Ford Motor Com- jpany has about reached the comedy Istage. Every few days from Wash- Russia, ington comes a report that if Ford diplomatic relations. Forty, does not do this or that or has not editors favor recognition while six- done certain things there is to bo teen.oppose. In the nation 718 oup- prosecution. Evidently the Ford P°ri recognition while 300 oppose it. company must be tiring of the --------- federal press news for it gave out a The news dispatches bring account statement some days ago that car- the recent1death of tnat veteran vied some irony and evidently much ac^or E. H. Sothern, 73, who became sting. The Ford company was low famous in various Shakespearian bidder on 1,000 trucks for the gov- play®. Of his fifty years on the stage ernment and the problem now is jscandal was never attached to his whether Uncle Sam is to pay more to (name. One of the outstanding acts some other bidder, probably the|°f *ds career was holding his place General Motors, whose president is 9n the stage of a Cincinnati theatre a member of the NRA board, Will while he directed the audience to re- Rogers, noted humorist, says NRA is,t*r® orderly owing to an alarm of fire, waiting until Ford reduces wages tojThe building was burning at the time the NRA standard before taking any abd escaped unhurt. Those who action. jhad the opportunity o f seeing Soth- jem and his wife, Julia Marlow, in While the Ford controversy con- .“ When Knighthood was in Flower” tinues Gen. Hugh S. Johnson, who hack in 1904, neVer lost the impres- preaches loyalty to the NRA and b o y -s‘on these two devoted persons left cotting for firms that have not sign- d*1 living that delightful story on the ed, steps out and trades his Lincoln, stage. They were equally as charm- made by the Fords, for a new Lincoln. >ng in “ If I Were King" and “ The There is humor in the situation as Prisoner of Zehda.” Cheap and trashy the public sizes up the controversy plnys never had a place in the life of between the NRA and the Ford com- either Sothern or Marlow, and they pany. Avere always greeted with large - ____ » crowds, both in this country and Something happened Saturday at Europe. ■ Estate of John M. Stormont, dccruscil. A poll has been taken of Ohio daily j luTcby ghen Ihut Ada B. newspapers as to whether the U. S, j* h®* t i.’lM.ulj, iippoiliUd should grant recognition to Soviet j of ll.o cxilulo of John edur- Ohio. October, ( t . ^ “W®"11' I iet; Ih rotnip ia,- meaning establishment of ! *’j' ffientiu' 11i .'KCtS, late of (’ tte r l ti s. - orty-seven j ' , »ilHflli liuiio County, ra fjivnr n>rnmifinn hiln uiy. DWtClj till' llillr of l' PICKING THE BONES OF A DISEASED CARCASS The eighteen ^hundred depositors of the closed Commercial and Saving bank-in Xenia may and may riot have just grounds in protesting the so-called exhorbitant attorney fees. One ground might be they had nothing to do with the selection of either attorney ad the appointment came from a former at­ torney general. i The situation iS'a Combination mixed .with politics in which Attorney C. L. Darlington was always credited by his associate in this case, Cong. L. T. Marshall, as a cog in the wheel .of the once dominant faction of the Republican party, then headed by the late H. E. Schmidt and Marcus Shoup. In view of all the contentions of the past it is no doubt somewhat of a surprise to know that the self-styled reformer, Cong. Marshall, who- de­ lighted to parade his political wares about the county with a lilly in one hand and a prohibition banner in the other, that he would permit himself to eveh^be associated with a brother at­ torney who more than once had been the victim of all sorts of charges from the reformation camp. That the Congressman, having waxed fat at the public teat for some twenty years, after a rich harvest in the sale of Geiger- Jones stocks that brought financial ruin to scores of Greene county families, would even attempt to over charge the hun­ dreds o f uepositors for a limited legal service while serving in Congress at a salary of $10,000 a year is no surprise. If this is gratitude for what the electors have done for him in the past in this county, then those who have sponsored his cause pol­ itically and happen to be depositors, have little room for op­ posing any charge he might make for his legal service. In view of the fact that the Congressman Was one of the attorneys m a recent $25,000 damage suit against Greene county, it might not be unfair to ask upon what terms he was appearing in*the case. If it was on the percentage basis, say fifty per cent, then his fee upon getting a favorable verdict would have been $12,500, and the taxpayers of the’ county would have had to finance the $25,000 judgment. Comparing the fee asked for legal services by the attorneys it is not out of place to point out that Prosecutor Marcus Mc­ Callister represented the county in the suits for depository funds in the dosed bank. He secured every cent due the county and earned the important part of the work in getting judgment. His salary is less than $150 a month, and he is the attorney for all county officials, township trustees and schools boards. Good legal counsel necessarily comes high, even during a depression. It would appear if payment was to be made on actual service rendered Attorney Darlington is entitled to the lions share of the claim based^on Marshall's admission at the hearing. It might be hard to determine just what share would be due the Congressman even though a round trip to Columbus is to cost the depositors $100. Picking the bones of the closed bank holds no obstacle, even for the Seventh District Congress­ man. of certain nien from Jerusalem, who. declared, “ Except ye be circumcised after the manner o"f Moses, ye cannot be saved" (v. 1). The problem was so difficult that Paul and Barnabas were unable to put these men to sf- li-nce: The brethren at Antioch decided to refer the matter to the mother church at Jerusalem. Accordingly, Paul, Barnabas, and others were sent as a deputation to Jerusalem. On the way they passed through Phenlce and Samaria,, declaring the news of the conversion of the Gentiles. II, The Deliberations of the Council (vv. G-2I). 1. Peter’s address.(vv. 6-11). He ar- ■rned that God had borne witness or Ids acceptance of the Gentiles by giv­ ing his Holy Spirit unto them as unto Ilie Jews (Acts 10:31-47). Since, there­ fore, God had not put a difference. It would be folly for them to do so. 2. Paul and Barnabas rehearse their experience (v. 12). ' They told how ihat God had set his seal of approval on their preaching of salvation by grace through faith apart from works. 3. The argument of James (vv. 13- 21). He showed how the truth de­ clared by Peter harmonized with the prophecy of Amos (Amos 9:11-15)'. He made It clear that the reception o f the Gentiles was not In conflict with God’s plan, but In strict harmony therewith. God’s plan, ns set forth In James’ .'speech, Is as'follows: a. God would visit the Gentiles to lake out from among them a people ler his name (v. 14). This fs. what is now going on—the worldwide preaching;of the gospel and the call­ ing out of the church. b. After-the completion nnd removal of the church from the world, Israel ’ ns a nation will be converted and re­ stored to their land with all its prlv-, lieges by the Lord himself upon his return (vC. 10,17n). The building again of the tabernacle of David means the restoration of the Davldic throne. Gabriel, In announcing to Mary .the birth of Jesus, said, “ The Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David’’ (Luke 1:32). c. This will he followed by the con-' version of the world through the agency of converted Israel (v. 17b, cf. Horn. 11:15). He showed that there is no conflict when the Scriptures are rightly divided. d. James’ proposition 4 (vv, 19-21). Ills judgment was that the Gentiles should not be troubled with the things which were Jewish, but should/ be warned against the perils of heathen­ ism, such as meat offered to Idols, for­ nication, from things strangled, and ’ from blood. III, The Decision of the Council (vv. 22*20). The mother church accepted the res­ olution offered by James and came to n unanimous agreement. They not only sent a letter stating the decision of the conference, but took the wise precaution to send Influential men along with Paul and Barnabas to bear the same testimony by word of month. Tills letter denied the authority of the Jmlalzlng teachers (v. 24), and de­ clared the method by which this de eision had been renched (vv. 25-27). They wisely' put the Holy Spirit first. IV, The Decision Delivered to the Church (vv. 30-35). The church at Antioch was called together to hear this report. Its read­ ing brought great rejoicing. , usual. Buyers for commission firms* The college boys took time by the refused to pay the price for hogs forelock this year in staging the hal- that was demanded by the owners and lowe’en pranks on Monday night. No walked out leaving some 3400 hogs,Hallowe’en would be complete with- unsold and to be carried over at the ’out a college stunt and this year bossy expense of the owners until the Mon-1was taken from the G.. H. Hart nan day market If there is one thing lot and given quarters in the Alford that needs revamping in this country Gym for the night. Ask caretaker it is the marketing, of live stock and Frank Owens for retails. Dowp town grains. The markets are no longer the Exchange Bank and Nagley corn- free and -open as they are sup-'era were each decorated with one of posed to be. !the small houses described by Chick ——i— 'Sales as the kind that are always Some days ago Joseph R. Nutt, re- erected on the rear of a lot before signed as treasurer of the Republican jthe big. house is built. national committee and his place has i —----- —— :—;— been filled by/George Getz, million- j The Senate banking comqiittee in aire coal baron, Chicago, who bolted [investigating practices in the field of the party and Hoover for Al Smith on the Democratic ticket. It is said the Republican treasury is much like the pocket of a union hod carrier that has been out o f employment a year or so. The Republican chiefs are hunt­ ing for the big tops that have the coin, for it is one organization that cannot operate on script of any kind. Getz is pulling for a new chairman to replace Everett Sanders and a tempt­ ing offer has been made to John J. Raskob to return to the Republican fold. He has been off the Republican reservation since Al Smith received the Democratic nomination in 1929. Raskob and Getz have .been' prominent banking discovered that large.sums of money had been paid representatives of the Farm Bureau for publicity. This brought about the dismissal of two officials this week. Plans- Being Made To Reorganize Shipping Assoc. a ed UKKI. 8. <’ WUK1HT, Judge of ilm I'ntbniu Court, Greene County, Ohio. NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT Estate of Otis T. Wolford, deceased. Notice is hereby given that Ida Haines has been duly appointed os administrator of the estate of Otis T. Wolford, deceased, late of Cedar- ville Township, GreShe County, Ohio, .Dated this 15th day of December, 1932. S. C. WRIGHT, Judge of the Probate Court, Greene County, Ohio. NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT Estate of Maud Jlnlunoun, deceased, ; Notice ia hereby given that Mary Robinson Walker has been duly ap­ pointed as executor o f the estate of Maud Robinson, deceased, late Greene County, Ohio. S. C. WRIGHT, Judge of the Probate Court, Greene County, Ohio, For Pale or Rent-House on Wal­ nut street. Inquire at this office or of Miss Fannie McNeill, w . H. McGERVEY Affiliated With The Dayton Bond Corporation Bought, Sold and Exchanged Investment Securities Building Association Stock and Deposits Phone: 198 Xenia, Ohio | Community Beauty Shop j | | XENIA, AVI?. • | | SPECIAL SATURDAY AND MONDAY j j OCTOBER 6 AND 8 j j Shampoo a n d Finger Wave— 50c | I No Affiliated With. Any Other Shop I I Appointments Not Necessary * , | : || || lllim illlH M M lilM lllim il............. In The Heart o f the C i t y " Right in the center of theatres and •hops. Bus and car service to all outlying points and suburbs. Excellent Cuisine—New Low Prices 250 Outside Rooms With Bath Circulating Ice Water—Tiled Showers A dean, comfortable home for thrifty travelers. Modern and metropolitan, but not ostentatious. The ideal hotel for transient and resident guests. VINE BETWEEN 4th and 5th STREETS f & w ? y P I C K ) C 'R b T E L . vL• v J RATES $ 2.00 TO $2 .50 •uoa oTofl®* 886888 BB flt 86 2e8006 aviiiff8 b (10885*i .•eEAJfJB£B_*8jj? 8*0OOlfti'u■U llU" plP 13tSi tel*5U t A meeting of farmers and livestock producers in this locality was held in the mayor’s office Tuesday evening. The. meeting was called by The Greene in repeal of the eighteenth amend- j County Co-operative Association and ment and evidently trfings are shap-j was. presided over by J. R. Kimber. ing up in Republican circles to get! Mr. Kimber reviewed the history of the wet vote and be able to check'cooperative live stock shipping in any movement of dry leaders comingiGrcene county and stated that the to the front. Imeeting had been called to work out !a more satisfactory method of hand- Montgomery county has a delin- ;ling the business from the Cedarvilie quent tax amounting to iftore than' yards, i ten million dollars, and as a result! After considerable discussion it was bonds and coupon interest remain un- !decided to select a committee to meet paid. The announcement that the!with the Board of Directors of |thc commissioners in that county have’ County Association and work out de- just purchased $5,000 worth of cash tailed plans to take over the mannge- registers has caused much comment ment of the Cedarvilie Stock Yards, which will not be good reading t o ‘ The committee named consists of holders, of bonds, The Dayton(0. A- Dobbins, J. E. Kyle, A. Roger Chamber of Commerce which has con-;Collins, David G. Bradfute, Frank ccrncd itself in civic and business af- fTownsley, John Collins. This corn- fairs might give the bond holders the mittee after formulating a plan will whys and wherefores for the pur- report at a meeting to be held No­ chase, vember 13, at which time all farmers lion. Clarence J. Brown, former interested in marketing livestock are Secretary of State, in a recent speech requested to be present. About at Dover, O., had the following to thirty-five farmers attended the Tues­ day: “ I am not,, interested tonight in petty personal ambitions. This is not the time for any person to be placing self above party. Party can­ didates will not be chosen for almost 10 months. Let us first rekindle the ;<lay night meeting. POTATO CROP IS CALLED “ SHORT The Abiding Presence The promise of Christ that he would remain with his own, even to the end of the world, though given primarily fo Ills apostles, was not for them alone, hut for nil who should believe In him through their teaching and that of their successors. >< se*2 what does the NRA say about attorney fees in liquidation o f a bank ? Meditation of Christ Let It he today. Shut yourself In, sit down to think, nnd to meditate, ami to '.‘cad that which will assist your thoughts about him, and yoflr medita­ tions on him, , a single state that has adopted old age pensions has found it possible to do away with the poorhouse, alms house or what ever you wan to call it. —........ . . . $1.00 Malted Milk—09c S T ' t t a i f t S f i r ' * " 1 M « « « * Inc., beard* E * r J 5 L F S ! 5 the lion, Robert Taft, in a debate on ten mill tax limitation Cincinnati. 50c Puretcst Milk of Magnesia—39c in j Week End Special at Brown’s •Drugs --------- ----- -— J $2.00 will start you out for fire and Investigation of lobbying about the Ohio legislature and ! thcft*wind storm »nd hail, and then the soliciting o f a bribe might not be confined to this general' a ,iu,e over 8 Penny Pcr d*y will assembly but go back a few years. 5 . carry 100 per cent protection on your to • sell store them car. Ists Let us take the chance, Motor- Mutual Insurance Co. C, H. Mussolini holds a public Wedding and married 3300 „ , , couples at one time, thus giving more employment to the stork H#rtm8n’ Locl111R*Pr««*ntative without the use of the NRA, i Subscribe for the Herald. Will it pay farmers fires of party faith and loyalty with- potatoes rather than to in the rank and the file of our party early in the season? membership. Let us set up and put Much depends upon the general forward a definite and concrete pro- price level nnd employment, but in gram that will bring to oiir banner years of sh<y/t crops and general price the support and enthusiasm of the rises it has paid to store. This is an citizens of Ohio.” 9 ' answer to the question prepared by From many quarters Mr. Brown is Guy W. Miller, extertsion specialist being importuned to announce as a in farm management for the Ohio candidate before the Republican pri-. State University, mary next August when a nomination The crop for the United States is for governor will be madd. estimated fdr the year at 307 million ........... 'bushels. Only twice ..in the last 15 The flood of what is termed ordin- years has the crop been smaller, once j ary unemployment or poor relief in 1919 and again in 1925. | legislation that poured out of the Miller cites two factors, other than state legislature and what came from the short crop, that favor storage, congress has provided a setup that Owing to the small size of the early will cost taxpayers.millions of dol- and intermediate potato crop in the lars in salaries alone, to say nothing southern and central states, shipments ! of the waste and extravagance that to market this year were early and ! exists in politicians handling the heavy from the 18 surplus states, he j purchase and distribution of supplies, points out. Miller believes also that Now comes a governmental agent and the government’s efforts to raise agri- j informs the county commissioners cultural prices will have a bearing they must provide a salaried job out upon the profitableness of farm Btor- , of taxpayers money to look after age. j poor relief, Attorney General Brick-: Heavy unemployment is listed first' er has ruled the law does not pro- among the unfavorable factors. Miller j vide for such office Slid that public puts second the low price psychology j funds cannot be used for that pur-’ that has taken root in the last sever- ' pose, Then appears another state al years. Reports from the early salary grabber who informs the com- southern states indicate that farmers missioners that unless such a place is intend to plan 19 per cent more acres created the County will get none o f (to potatoes next.spring. the government meat, flour, butter,: ------------------ peanut butter, eggs or chickens. 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Del were prro The low Junior .Si; , tertained Hallowe’er noon at til H, II. CiJ committee [ dent; Mail retary; treasurer; Betty Coul ed a guest! Games, ,-itul ed the comf in keeping! was served! ing. will be Union Pr| in the M. 5 at 3 p. m.| - tion. Lead good attend 25c Colg Week End l Dr. and Thursday fo will open h East Main s Among thi the funeral Jameson, S| Lula Watt, ■and .Mrs. J. Mrs. Charles! Mrs. Hawkir Xenia. Mr. and Ivll ed this weell where Mr. S| red by the St] Mr. and daughter, former residl guests of Mr| Sunday. Misses Ed Smith and 5 the Colunibu over the we< C. E. Hill o! Hill and wif| their son, bus. Miss Marj! ville left W| City, where Mrs. Donald| I wish to Nagley brol Rev. Hill, ail their kindne.J since the lo? Lillies Ford Miss* Wiln| Ohio, and and Elizabt Liverpool w< of Miss Chri: Miss Curry. the sessions I Teachers’ Al ed in Dayton 50e Moll A PI Rubbing Week End Dr. W. R. Dayton Rot^ reviewing ti history durii the country conditions t today and a united peJ stitution thnj The Editor ney for the guest of Mr dent and ml branch of f!| Paper Co. the Biltmnr December for the Int position at tiopal Hay ment of th est competi crops in th accepted un announce. Rad i We have] latest Raj will test] charge. We have b ran d s u i repair wol dies. Let Ih $1.00 Wa-Hoo Bitters The Old ludian Tonic Advertising Price—25c FORSALE ANDWANT ADSPAY ?e<5| ....