Reflecting on your 40 years at Cedarville, can you share a particularly transformative memory or event? There will be lots, but I will tell you that they all have to do with students. That’s why I’m here, why I came, and why I stayed. There are so many moments where students have challenged me, loved me, wept with me, laughed with me. My passion to try to help prepare the next generation of those who will lead in music and churches has been a real joy. And there are days that I just stand and I just stop in chapel and I just turn and look at the students and weep, and I say, “God, how in the world have you let this old guy be a part of this for so long?” Any closing thoughts on worship? Worship is not a moment in time. It's not something that you can package. Worship is as limitless as God Himself. So I hope at Cedarville, we are learning that worship is something that's intricate to all that we do and everything we say and how we love each other and how we care for each other and how we walk in obedience. That this life of worship is more important than some kind of perfect chord that we hit that makes everybody's hands go in the air and makes something mystical and magical happen in the room. And I think that's why the blend of this musical aspect and the passion to obey God in living out the Great Commission, you know, music and evangelism, music and discipleship, this all mixes together to cause us to have a life of worship. I hope that's what we're doing here. That’s what I'm trying to do. As you prepare to leave Cedarville, how do you hope to be remembered? I don't really think about that. I kind of live in the moment. I hope it would be that I really love students. And that in my brokenness and failure I do love Jesus, even though it doesn't always come out that way because I'm broken. I hope the students know that I love Jesus and I love them. 24
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